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Breaking: A DSO Priest talks about the diocese SSB “focus group”

14 October 2009

[Elder’s note:  Father Dave Bailey, a conservative priest in the Diocese of Southern Ohio, has sent the following to me in private email correspondence, and has approved its release.  I will update you as more details unfold.  What follows are three of the emails that Fr. Dave has sent me today.  First person references therefore, refer to Fr. Dave, etc.

My thanks and prayers go out to Fr. Dave. 

– EO]

First email:

“I am on the “Focus Group” for Bishop Breidenthal as he gets ready to allow Same Sex Blessings to happen in the Diocese. Of the 10 of us at the table this morning, I was one of only two conservatives – and the only vocal one! I’m writing a piece to be sent to other conservative clergy in the diocese (the few that are left) and will copy you on it. You have my permission to post it and to use my real name. The Bishop knows that I am disseminating my observations on the meeting to “my constituency”.”
 
Second email:

“This resolution was written by Bruce Smith+, I was a co-sponsor. I wrote resolution R 2001-7. I passed this resolution out to the members of the Same Sex Blessings Focus Group today. It appears that Bishop Breidenthal and others were unaware of this resolution.

BTW, this is the resolution that Ron Baird+ attempted to amend – such amending was squashed by Bishop Thompson on the Convention floor. When I’m back in the office tomorrow, I’ll dig up the letter I sent Bishop Thompson about this.

R2003-03: A Resolution Regarding Theological Differences over Issues of Human Sexuality

Resolved, that the 129th Convention of the Episcopal Diocese of Southern Ohio affirms the acclamation in the Sacrament of Holy Baptism that:

There is one Body and One Spirit;

There is one hope in God’s call to us

One Lord, one Faith, one Baptism;

One God and Father of all.

And be it further resolved, that the members of this Convention remain committed to the Great Commission in Matthew 28, and to what we have discerned to be God’s Vision for our Diocese as articulated in the Clear Vision Statement and Four Strategic Choices; and be it further

Resolved, that this Convention acknowledges that committed Christians in the Episcopal Diocese of Southern Ohio are deeply divided over the issue of whether or not sexual relations between same-sex couples in committed relationships are intrinsically sinful actions; and be it further

Resolved, that this 129th Convention affirms and upholds Resolution 2001-07, which was passed by the 127th Convention in November, 2001, to foster continued dialogue about issues of human sexuality, and which said in part the following:

·         That it is the intent of this Diocese that all persons are to be treated with respect and dignity, regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation or theological stance;

·         That the Diocese of Southern Ohio affirms that those persons who support the approving and blessing of same-sex relationships, as well as those persons who oppose the approving and blessing of same-sex relationships, both hold recognized theological positions within the Episcopal Church, and such persons are to be treated with dignity and respect as brothers and sisters in Christ;

·         That the Diocese of Southern Ohio affirms that those persons who support the ordination of homosexuals who are in committed, monogamous relationships, as well as those persons who are opposed to such ordinations, both hold recognized theological positions within the Episcopal Church,  and such persons are to be treated with dignity and respect as brothers and sisters in Christ;

·         That those organizations which advocate a particular stance on issues of human sexuality, and who are willing to treat persons and organizations of differing stances with respect and dignity, are welcome to participate in the life of this Diocese; and be it further

Resolved, that this Convention extends its appreciation to Bishop Thompson for his pastoral response to the people of our Diocese in his pastoral letter of August 8th, 2003, and be it further

Resolved, that while members of the Episcopal Church in Southern Ohio are in profound disagreement on this important issue, we commit ourselves to endeavor to remain in communion with each other, our Bishops and the Anglican Communion. PASSED.

Third email:

“This was passed in 2001. I wrote it . . .
 
Diocese of Southern Ohio
Resolution R2001-07

Resolved, that this 127th Convention of the Diocese of Southern Ohio receive with thanks the report of the Human Sexuality Task Force to the 126th Convention (the 2000 Human Sexuality Report); and be it further

Resolved, that it is the intent of this Diocese that all persons are to be treated with respect and dignity, regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation or theological stance, and be it further

Resolved, that the Diocese of Southern Ohio affirm that those persons who support the approving and blessing of same-sex relations, as well as those persons who oppose the approving and blessing of same-sex relationships, both hold recognized theological positions within the Episcopal Church, and such persons are to be treated with dignity and respect as brothers and sisters in Christ; and be it further

Resolved, that the Diocese of Southern Ohio affirm that those persons who support the ordination of homosexuals who are in committed, monogamous relationships, as well as those persons who are opposed to such ordinations, both hold recognized theological positions within the Episcopal Church, and such persons are to be treated with dignity and respect as brothers and sisters in Christ; and be it further

Resolved, that those organizations which advocate a particular stance on issues of human sexuality, and who are willing to treat persons and organizations of differing stances with respect and dignity, are welcome to participate in the life of this Diocese; and be it further

Resolved, that the Bishop establish a Human Sexuality Study Commission to continue the study of human sexuality in light of scripture, tradition and reason, and that members of this Commission represent the diversity of the diocese with respect to race, gender, sexual orientation and theological stance, and that there be among members of this Commission persons with appropriate expertise in
scripture, theology and the various sciences which inform human sexuality; and be it further

Resolved, that this Commission be given oversight responsibility for the human sexuality study programs described in the 2000 Human Sexuality Report, as well as other programs requested by the Bishop, Diocesan Council or this Convention; and be it further

Resolved, that this Commission report to the Diocese about its ongoing work on a regular basis, but no less often that annually.

David B. Bailey+
“Surfing the Edge of Chaos”

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  1. Pearls Before Swine
    14 October 2009 at 11:39 PM

    I assume that we are still waiting for Father Dave Bailey’s observations from the “focus group” and should expect to see them soon.

    • Elder Oyster
      15 October 2009 at 12:03 AM

      Hi Pearls,

      Yup.

  2. NBS
    15 October 2009 at 2:38 AM

    What the heck is the point of having a non-vocal conservative on this focus group? There are only 2 conservatives out of 10 people and one of them is non-vocal? Come on Mr./Mrs. Non-Vocal Conservative, step up your game and stop being such wuss.

  3. David Bailey
    15 October 2009 at 1:05 PM

    Sorry for the delay in reporting on the meeting – I was laid low yesterday with a sinus headache! More to come.

    NBS, the “nonvocal” conservative lady took a while to get up to speed with what was going on . . . but did say clearly to the group that most of the folks in her congregation would consider SSBs to be an “abomination”. She is an older, active, member in her congregation and is well respected by many in the diocese. She and I will be talking . . .

  4. David Bailey
    15 October 2009 at 1:07 PM

    I will let everyone know that Bishop Breidenthal will permit clergy to bless same sex unions and will present the criteria for doing so at the Diocesan Convention.

  5. 15 October 2009 at 2:41 PM

    As always, I give my kudos to Fr. David for standing up against the liberal tide in the diocese in a respectful and intelligent way. I was in Cincinnati last weekend for a conference; I should have seen if we could have met (I didn’t have a car though).

    This post shows the sad state of the Southern Ohio diocese and how it has really gone downhill since Bishop Thompson was there. Granted, I know that Bp. Thompson was more conservative than the diocese, but I can’t imagine approving same-sex blessings would have even been considered when I became Episcopalian in Athens in 2000. Even in 2003, there was considerable (although a definite minority) opposition to the consecration of Robinson. Now, in 2009, I probably wouldn’t even recognize most parishes in the diocese. God bless Fr. Bailey!

  6. David Bailey
    15 October 2009 at 5:14 PM

    David, thanks for your kind words, and I need all the God Blessing I can get!

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